Two posts in one

This I found at http://patterico.com/2010/10/23/what-ted-olson-is-shoveling/comment-page-1/#comment-711840

This adapted from is an old post from my blog, that I consider an “oldie but goodie” to give you guys a little content while I handle some personal matters. This post in particular will become relevant because I am preparing a piece on the terrible brief Olson and company filed just last week in this case. I hope you enjoy this post.

In defending the recent ruling that gay marriage is in the Fourteenth Amendment, and no one apparently discovered that for the first 142 years of its existance, (sic) former Solicitor General Ted Olson made this idiot comparison between freedom of speech and gay marriage:

Well, would you like your right to free speech — would you like Fox’s right to free press put up to a vote and say, “Well, if five states have approved it, let’s wait till the other 45 states do?” These are fundamental constitutional rights. The Bill of Rights guarantees Fox News and you, Chris Wallace, the right to speak. It’s in the Constitution. And the Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the denial of our citizens of the equal rights to equal access to justice under the law is a violation of our fundamental rights.

First, every time someone says that it’s a throw-something-at-the-screen moment.”

That last line, starting with “First, every time …” Yah, I know the feeling. So I responded thus:

You are right, gay marriage is not in the 14th Amendment, or whatever Olson’s reasoning is. It’s in the First Amendment, where Congress shall pass no law against the free exercise of religion. And if my religion says I can get married to any guy who would have me, then fine. And yours says I can’t, then fine. But you all got the law by Congress, DOMA, and state laws galore, which reflects your religious beliefs, however honored and ancient they might be. Thus Congress has passed a law against a religious belief of gay folks to get married in any church that would have us — by specifically outlawing recognition of such marriages, and yet still collecting taxes from said gay couples, all the while allowing all other religions to have their sanctified marriages given the privilege of state recognition and a joint tax return, among other privileges. Gay taxpaying citizens are specifically excluded based on religious grounds, and Congress unconstitutionally passed a law enshrining religious belief. As too with so many state constitutions guaranteeing religious liberty. So either remove marriage from the state, or include gay people in marriage. If you quibble with the word, I’ve proposed Twainage. Others joinage. Still others the rather clumsy civil union.

I find it fascinating, too, that the people most opposed to gay marriage say we make up just 1% of the population. Which means that there’s just 3,000,000 of us. And since so many still be kids, the sissies bullied, there’d be perhaps, so it’s claimed, 2,000,000 adult gay folks. And that would mean one million marriages if we all went out tomorrow and tied the knot with anyone we might know. But oh, let’s say it’s just 200,000 marriages that might actually happen if it be legal. And if that tiny number of couples imperils the 65,000,000 marriages in this nation we’re all in a lot more trouble in the marriage department than you all realized.

That DOMA “protects” marriage, or Prop 8, or any other such law, by outlawing it for a tiny few while keeping Divorce perfectly legal for you folks is astounding. Talk about your lousy legal reasoning.

 

 

 

 

 

I read this today also, at http://cafehayek.com/2010/10/no-more-bullying.html#disqus_thread

 

Here’s an e-mail, in full, from (person’s name) (posted here with permission):

via tweet from the president:

Each of us deserves the freedom to pursue our own version of happiness. No one deserves to be bullied. #itgetsbetter http://j.mp/dfubAY

I agree. Why not extend the same courtesy to people who use “illegal” drugs or enter voluntary contracts with others? The list goes on, of course.”

There were 21 comments until I added my own. Some people of course were clueless that the president was referring to bullying of gay teens, and some people were upset that the president spoke against such a fine thing as that, though some folks were quite in agreement, rationally, that bullying of anyone, including, gays is not good. So it was a mixed bag – so I commented thus:

 

 

Unfortunately, bullying against gay people is not just against the kids. Indeed, some public commentators seem to go out of the way to bully gay folks. Mostly from the pulpit. But still, politicians galore. And of course the commander-in-pretend is doing his share right now. Gay folks are so picked upon, at every level of society, from every quarter, you all have no idea. The catalog of near daily insults is astounding. In response of course, we’ve set up a separate economy, with everything from gay Realtors, plumbers, doctors, lawyers, churches, retirement homes, resorts and even the National Gay Rodeo Association. And we turn the other cheek, smile, and serve you your coffee on your flights all across this county.

All of which is subject to the same cockamamie rules and outrageous taxation as every other business, and employee, in this nation. As such, we’re on the same side, you straights, we gays, except the socialists among us of course.

Now if only more of you would just quit the ranting about how the “homosexual menace” is going to collapse the Republic. end

 

And that’s how I spent my Saturday morning. I have no idea if my comments will be allowed to stand. So I post them here. Some blogs still delete my comments. Militant homosexual or something. I don’t know. I’m told I write well. I never cuss. Hmm. I guess I just aggravate people. Perhaps I’m too extreme. Oh well, as my hero, Barry Goldwater said, (besides that “give gay folks constitutional rights” bit I love,) “extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice.” And look at how extreme I’m being for including gay folks in our own country!

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